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Bloody Baby Pictures Banned by MySpace

Posted by Rachel on December 5, 2007

dsc02508.jpgMy friend and sometimes blogger Snikta recently had a baby and, like any proud papa these days, he posted photos of his newborn girly to his MySpace account. He received the following generic message from MySpace, which had already yanked a couple of the photos, those of his daughter in her first moments in the outside world:

Subject: We had to delete one of your photos
Body: We had to remove an image (or images) from your account because they violated our Terms of Use. Our site is for people as young as 14, so we can’t have certain kinds of pics (nude/sexually explicit, violence, material protected by copyright). Find out more about content we don’t allow here. If you continue to violate our Terms, we may be forced to remove your account.

You may feel singled out, but be assured that we delete each and every one of these images as we locate them. If you find an image which you feel is in violation of our Terms, please feel free to use the ‘report image’ link below the image.

Thanks for your understanding.

MySpace Safety & Security

MySpace’s terms of service do include a provision against “photographs containing nudity, or obscene, lewd, excessively violent, harassing, sexually explicit or otherwise objectionable subject matter,” with “otherwise objectionable” giving them fairly unlimited latitude to remove whatever they fell like. They also note that images are removed “as we locate them,” suggesting that MySpace is trolling for objectionable photos, not just responding to those that have generated user complaints.

dsc02507.jpgHowever, it’s difficult to understand what’s so objectionable about photos of a newborn. The nudity provision was violated by the images, but we tend, culturally, to have a higher general acceptance of naked babies and small children than of adults. They’re bloody photos, to be sure, but this is how babies look when newly emerged into the world. Perhaps the MySpace folks have seen too many tv/movie births, in which infants arrive plump, clean, and 3 months old. Perhaps they’ve ruined their eyesight looking at the metric sh*tton of photos of barely covered boobs and butts that they *do* allow to remain on the site.

The thing that amused me most about the message was the bit about “our site is for people as young as 14.” I know it’s a form letter, but I tend to think that just about every 14 year old would actually benefit from seeing these photos, particularly in abstinence-only land. Birth isn’t a neat and clean event, to be fantasized about by young girls who want someone to love and love them - it’s messy, bloody, and real. Heck, I saw the photos and thought twice (for a split second) about birthing any babies. A new CDC report indicates that the teen pregnancy rate rose in 2006 for the first time in 14 years - would a little reality check really hurt anyone?

If I’m being honest, I hesitated to post the photos here. I worried about freaks and pedophiles and their reaction to a naked baby. I made sure to get clear permission from the parents, though, and that’s good enough for me. Aside from which, if nothing was ever posted on the web that some weirdo would think inappropriate things about, there’d be nothing on the web. While MySpace is technically within their rights to remove the photos, there’s nothing obscene about newborns, even naked and bloody ones. That’s how we all got here, after all.

PS-The little one is all cleaned up and safe at home.

25 Responses to “Bloody Baby Pictures Banned by MySpace”

  1. Cyndi Gross Says:

    What a beauty!
    How amazing to capture this moment. It’s too bad it can no longer be shared.

    Funny, though, when I looked at the second picture, her legs flop up almost like she was in a breech position. Was she breech? Or just the “limber legs” of a newborn.

  2. Rachel Says:

    Cyndi, if she was breech, nobody told me! :)

  3. Katherine Coble Says:

    I had to write this up for MCB (to appear midmorning tomorrow). I cannot believe the sort of logic that thinks this should be banned while so many other things shouldn’t.

    Oh well.

  4. Labor Nurse Says:

    I agree with Cyndi, this baby has the classic breech legs!

    MySpace isn’t the first website to take down pictures such as this. Wasn’t it Photobucket or some such site that takes down pictures of women breastfeeding, yet leaves up the almost pornographic pictures of women revealing their breasts?

  5. Rachel Says:

    You two, I’m gonna have to check with the papa to see if he left out any important details! :)

    Labor Nurse, you’re right - I know that both MySpace and Facebook have deleted breastfeeding images. Not sure about Photobucket, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

  6. snikta Says:

    No, she wasn’t breech. The birth went perfectly in every way. Thanks, Cyndi, for your compliment!

    What I didn’t really make clear to Rachel was that the pictures were posted (in a private album, viewable only by my friends), and then those two images were deleted within a couple of hours. I don’t think any of my friends would have objected to the pics, so myspace must be trolling. Tom must be a pretty busy guy! :)

    It’s been almost a full day, and so far facebook hasn’t done the same.

  7. Rachel Says:

    Snikta, I suspected she wasn’t breech, since you were in a hospital and J wasn’t sectioned. :) But I figured I’d let you speak to that.

    I’m amazed that they were taken down so quickly, and especially without any complaints.

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  9. Sheila Says:

    YouTube recently took down a sweet vintage Sesame Street clip of Big Bird learning about breastfeeding while acast member breastfed her infant son. It had about 50,000 hits in a month’s time before YouTube took it down for the same reason “Terms of Use.” 14,000 clips tagged Sesame Street remain on the website, though. Grrr

  10. mark Says:

    I am sick of silly censorship. yest some providers allow the showing of atrocities (eg terrorism) freely. We should all protest against silly editorial decisions.

  11. angel Says:

    I dont understand y they would make him take that down

  12. teegan Says:

    Youtube got rid of an informative children’s program teaching young ones to understand natural, healthy baby-feeding?! This is crazy! One of the PTA women that volunteers for my little sister’s class brought her baby to a school festival event and breast fed in public with no problems from anyone at the primary school. I’m a constant youtube user, and I am SO filing a complaint with them about that! PS- um, unless you know what the photos are about, those baby pics are frightening. I’m sure she looks lovely now, birth just takes it out of the mother and child.

  13. snikta Says:

    Angel,
    Just to be clear. They did not make me take them down. They deleted them and then told me about it.

    Teegan,
    I suppose the pics could be found a little frightening if you were not aware of the context. No one who would have been able to see the pictures should have been unaware, however, because they had all been notified a couple days before I posted them about the birth. Additionally, the album’s title indicates what was going on.

    I, too, am bothered by the larger issue of corporations and other groups-who are dependent upon their users for content- deciding that materials that are educational (I refer to the youtube video) are not appropriate for their audience. These pictures are not intended to educate, but I suppose one could find some educational value in them.

  14. Anissa Says:

    Shame on myspace!! Those are wonderful pics! I showed them to my 6 year old daughter so she can see what to expect when I have our baby in May!!!
    Nothing at all offensive about these pics!!!!

  15. Lynnette Says:

    Come on people…rules are not meant to be broken. That’s our problem now. Everyone wants to get away with something (for some exceptional reason or another). While as a woman I agree on one hand that child birth is a beautiful thing; since I’ve had 3 of my own. Yet, not everyone needs or wants to experience YOUR personal experience with it! YOU enjoy it with your close family and friends…that’s it. Myspace did what was right and hopefully they will get around to the half naked men AND women exposing themselves for personal gain online also, but until then, lets at least keep the dignity and safeguards of our children intact. With all the freaks running around this world today, someone should be happy that Myspace is taking an interest in your childs’ privacy. Come on people…really.

  16. Rachel Says:

    I would argue that the parents, who posted the pictures, are in a better and more appropriate position to “take an interest in the child’s privacy” than is some random MySpace dude. Nobody was being forced to look at them. The rules themselves are not all clear, giving considerable wiggle room for what is considered obsence. The idea that this was about “getting away with something” is not at all accurate, and I say that knowing the individual who posted the photos and his family.

  17. Lynnette Says:

    Well Rachel, lets just agree to disagree. It seems to me your not a neutral to the situation, so I feel my point was valid and strong. Then again it is just MY thought. By the way,…people ARE being forced to look at them with a title like “BLOODY BABY PICTURES!”. I thought this was another daily horrific act of violence in this cruel world, but it was someones joy being brought into this cruel world :-) Anyway, good luck with the battle.

  18. Rachel Says:

    “Agree to disagree” - I can manage that. :)

  19. Chrystal Says:

    I am a 22 year old young woman i have an 8 yearold son. if i hade seen and known what it was to have a baby i would not have done what i did at the time i did it. i love my son but at 14 with no way to suport my newboren it was very very hard i did find a job and went to school and have a beautiful son that is now in the 1st grade him self. all i am saying is i wish some one would have done this for me.
    beautiful baby

  20. Susanna Says:

    Chrystal, congrats to you for handling it all. Yes, pictures like this should be shown in the classroom.

    I totally agree with the silliness and hypocricy of MySpace and others.

    I do have one consideration, though. At a certain age, little children are very self-conscious of anything “showing”. A few years from now, Snikta’s daughter will certainly not like to find out that a picture like this was posted at her birth for all to see in her parents circle. I think we should respect the feelings of children. But parents, of course, routinely invade the privacy and reveal the secrets of their children.

  21. Rachel Says:

    Susanna, re: your last point, that’s something I thought about. So, as a compromise, she’s welcome to ask me to remove them during that embarrassing pre-teen/teen stage. :)

  22. Linda Says:

    I’m pretty sure you can appeal that. Otherwise, you have my support to keep posting photos like this. It’s perfectly natural in the same way that the BBC (as conservative and establishment as it gets) once showed live footage of a mother breastfeeding on the breakfast news show. Myspace are worse than our national news!

  23. david lincoln brooks Says:

    This is how we all come into the world… it may not be “sanitized”, but life is like that… a little messy. The red nasal syringe told me that this child was born healthily, even though her extremities are a wee bit bluish… Some unwitting viewers might initially get the unfortunate perception that this was not a happy (ie., live) birth. I’m just sayin’. Perhaps the original post-er of this photo might’ve taken it into PHOTOSHOP and provided a caption on the photo itself featuring the girl’s name and birth particulars in a cute font… Context, context, context.

  24. Rachel Says:

    David, I’m happy to report that she is thriving. :)

  25. Cher Says:

    I am one of those people that finds childbirth and everything associated with it absolutely the MOST disgusting sight I have ever had the misfortune of witnessing. I am glad that sites like Myspace and photobucket delete those types of pictures. I do not find them appropriate to be posted on any public site. I am curious however if the pictures were marked as viewable by friends or private only? If that be the case then you should be allowed to post them on your profile but only as long as they are kept to those limitations. To make them public so that just anyone can stumble upon them is inappropriate. I had to run to the bathroom and be sick just happening across them during a benign photo search on Google. Please keep that to yourself I do not share in your opinion of it’s beauty but instead find it to be very sickening.

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